Monkey Business | Interview: Jonathan Leaf
In a recent episode of The Remnant podcast, Jonah Goldberg interviews author Jonathan Leaf about the similarities between humans and primates. They discuss various topics including animal behavior, human nature, and the implications of recent scientific findings. The conversation also touches on cultural references and the evolution of human traits.
- ▪Jonah Goldberg hosts The Remnant podcast, which features discussions on politics, policy, and culture.
- ▪Jonathan Leaf is the author of 'The Primate Myth', exploring new theories of human nature based on scientific research.
- ▪The episode delves into the connections between humans and apes, including aspects of violence and social behavior.
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Monkey Business | Interview: Jonathan Leaf Jonah Goldberg / May 20, 2026 Unlocked The Remnant Listen on your player of choice Text Size Members can share articles with friends & family to bypass the paywall. Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Threads Email 0 Open and scroll to the comments section Episode Transcript For years, Jonah Goldberg’s enemies, acquaintances, and wife have accused him of being little more than a slightly advanced proboscis monkey. Today’s guest, author Jonathan Leaf, is here to prove them definitively wrong. Jonah and Jonathan explore how similar humans and apes actually are, while also touching on warlike animals, humans and the herd, chimp violence, the Jets, polygamy, language, hardwiring, Jane Goodall, and preferential homosexuality along the way.
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